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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jul 6, 2012 5:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Decorah eaglet killed

Saw this last night when I did my daily check-up. It is sad. I read it was the first fatality in the 14 chicks hatched at Decorah since they started filming.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 6, 2012 5:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Decorah eaglet killed

Yes, the first known fatality, at least. There's no way to know where the others are, or if they are all living, except for the one they banded last year (and she is alive and well). I think there are a lot of hazards for the juveniles.

Apparently, you can't bury an eagle, it's against the law, they have to send the body - somewhere, some US agency I forget the name of, and they autopsy it and send the feathers to native American tribes that use them ceremonially. I'm not a person who's big on rituals, but I like the idea that this poor bird's feathers will be used in a meaningful way.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 6, 2012 9:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Decorah eaglet killed

All eagles, or just bald eagles? If you can't bury it, can you burn it? If not, what do you do with a dead eagle ... just leave it on the side of the road to let nature take its course?

My husband and I recently spent a sunset watching a fisherman's family pulling in their catch while crows and eagles argued, strategized and made feints at each other from overhead. Fascinating dynamics.

Wish there was more than 13 seconds of the historical Pueblo footage here along with the modern; I always feel a bit sad when I see traditional dances in a formal "cultural dance" context on a stage. But this dance sure does capture the motion of a group of eagles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO2g9tgWjbU

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 6, 2012 11:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Decorah eaglet killed

> If not, what do you do with a dead eagle

Find a good chef. Of course, letting the noble bird putrefy while waiting for the government man could be the better course. It is cool in Philly these days...

Those Pueblo dancers looked like some GD dancers I've seen. May not all be Eastern dance as an influence. May have to re-evaluate that one a bit. :-)

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 7, 2012 1:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: eagle for dinner?

Or get on the internet. This is the closest I could find, but I guess you could substitute eagle brains for crow brains. I like the comment: "It sounds gross but it's yummy!"

http://www.nativetech.org/recipes/recipe.php?recipeid=299

One of the categories is "All Indigenous Ingredients," which is probably closest to what Native Americans actually ate. Pretty interesting. Even better if you happen to recognize wild Oo-Ga-Na-S-Di, cuz otherwise, as the note says, it could kill you.

Btw, Mr They-Couldn't-Dance-Before-Touchheads, you're the one who said that Eastern dance was an actual influence. I say it's just a resemblance. Tapping into the universal consciousness and all, like Joseph Campbell and his myth studies. So yes, you should reevaluate that one :-)



This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2012-07-07 08:22:44

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 7, 2012 5:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Decorah eaglet killed

Just for the records, the Decorah eagles are not in Philly, they're in Iowa.

But these birds are in Philly, and it's a great Philadelphia story as well as a great bird story:

http://sunnydixie.blogspot.com/

A tale of two hawks ... apparently, Fluffyans have been watching this beloved hawk family for years, though I only learned of them this year. Sadly, the father was killed this spring. But from there the story only gets more interesting, as the mother soon took a new mate who actively step-parented the children - a phenomenon previously unknown (or so I gather from the blog, and there is a biologist commenting, so I hope the info is accurate). The story of his early somewhat bumbling attempts to become a dad are really amazing and funny (sometimes, he brought food for the babies, then sort of forgot what he was doing and ate it himself ... pretty funny).

Worth looking at for Philly pics as well as the birds; the step-parenting saga is back in earlier posts.

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Jul 7, 2012 8:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Decorah eaglet killed

I also have seen nature at work.I was at a stop sign out in rural Jersey and this sparrow was just munching on something on the ground.All of a sudden a Red Tailed Hawk came in talloned the crap out of this little bird and wisked it away to feed it's self and it's brood.Survival of the fittest indeed,I do think Darwin is proven right time after time.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jul 9, 2012 8:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: When nature and humanity clash....

Nature usually wins.

Just down the road from us there is a Horse Riding and Boarding School. There is also a wonderful kennel we used to take our Golden retriever to for boarding when we were gone and couldn't take her. They also do Doggie Day Care and grooming. Last year, one of the groomers was working on a small dog - pekingnese, chihuahua, shih tzu sized. According to the story in the paper, it was a nice day, so the groomer had moved the grooming stand outside so everyone could enjoy the sunshine and weather. She had the dog standing up on the grooming stand and had gone back inside to get something to work on the dog. As she came back outside all she saw was a flash of brown, grey and red as mature red tailed hawk hit the dog at about 60 miles an hour and carried it off.

Apparently the owner was not too happy........

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 7, 2012 2:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Decorah eaglet killed

The hawk was just grabbin' a bite to eat, same as the rest of us.

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Jul 7, 2012 2:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Decorah eaglet killed

Not denying the thing got to eat also.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 6, 2012 6:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Decorah eaglet killed

Rats; on the good news front, here in the Southwest the eagles are rebounding nicely...there's a pair along the Verde River to the East of SDH's compound that one can see whenever crossing early in the morning...impressive birds.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jul 6, 2012 6:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Decorah eaglet killed

Leaving Texas
Fourth day of July
Sun so hot, clouds so low
The eagles filled the sky

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 6, 2012 7:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Decorah eaglet killed

Durn it ... you made me remember, last year, on the Fourth of July I posted that on their facebook page ... this year I forgot.